Messages from our viewers-- Sir, I had enrolled 11 members and forwarded forms and Pay in slips by regd post, the names do not appear in the list so far. Pl confirm receipt of the packet.This was around 10 weeks back. Thanks Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, Please find attach the IESM membership form. The rank has wrongly shown as Sgt instead of Lt Col. I have transferred Rs 1001.00 on line having reference number 165002989A1 dated 17/06/2009 from my HDFC acct including donation of Rs 501.00. Request confirm correction of rank and fwd Registration number, Please acknowledge. Regards, Lt Col (Retd) S K Roy Lt Col Shakti Kumar Roy; It is good effort.My humble suggestion is we should ask CDA(P) to issue fresh PPOs as was done in the case of th Pay Commission as different banks are interpreting the govt letter differently. For example SBI has not credited the arrears and pension in the case of most officer whose acts are in SBI. Colonel Param Jit Singh; A good beginning.Best wishes for the website! Joy Koruthu; This is a very good interactive site and is good means for all ex servicemen to keep abreast with the activities under the banner of IESM.Let us all work for the rally on 12th April and make it a big success.VK Gandhi Gp Capt VK Gandhi; This is a good beginning. My best wishes for the site to develop into a \'one-stop-destination\' for all matters concerning ESM welfare. Wg Cdr C Ravishankar; It is nice to see own web site which contains more relevant information which are benificial to all Ex service men. Please include more information of all general nature and specific issues which will be help ful for all veterans, as we donot have access to any relevant information after retirement.I wish this maiden venture a great success and hope and appeal that each one of us to become a part of it.regards and keep going.ic 40475 M Maj C Bhaskaran MAJOR (RETD) C BHASKARAN; please change my Email ID shown in my previous message. MAJ (RETD) C BHASKARAN; It is a very good effort. I wish the IESM should grow and reach two million members by the end of this year 2009. My sincere appreciation for your all out efforts to unite the under one umbrella. We will definitely achieve our demand OROP. May God bless all the team members of IESM. Ex.Sgt. C.Muthukrishnan; I as Sr.Vice President All India Defence Brotherhood MOHALI here by request all the veterans of India to join the IESM for the protuction of our rights which are being curtailed by the Babu\'s (IAS)Thanks SGT JAGDIP SINGH; Excellent initiative by IESM.May I take opportunity to appeal all visitors to inform about activities and programmes of IESM to all known ESM and encourage to join the movement. JWO RB Singh; I am happy to know the formation of the IESM. Congratulations. IESL has failed to achieve the objects and has become a non effective. I suggest that IESM should welcome all the large or small associations functioning in India and go formation of the State Units. The agitation mmust be conducted in all the State and Districts. Welcome all the Associations to join the movement except IESL.I am the founder National Ex-servicemen Co-ordination Committee and now the General Secretary of Mili Ex Hav/Clk ASC (SD) P.V. RAMACHANDRAN; CONGRATULATION, IESMIT IS VERY GOOD EFFORT AND I WISH IESM SHOULD GROW WITH FLYING COLOURS. IESM MEMBERS SHOULD INFROM THE POLICY AND GREAT CAUSE OROP TO ALL ESM ATCSD CANTEEN, ECHS POLYCLINICS AND ZILA SAINIK BOARDS, WHERE LARGE NUMBER OF ESMS ARE VISITING. THANKS EX SGT LALIT BHARDWAJ; FOR K.A.OF GEN R KADYAN, CHAIRMAN Sir, Congratulations on the successful conduct of the Maha Rally on 12 Apr 09, which I did attend and got myself registered. Sir, my suggestion to you is for having an IESM Flag which should flutter on all future rallies/events and which will eventually enhance the members commitment towards the organisation and the banner. Subsequently we can add on lapel badges as well. Best Wishes to you and the IESM. Lt Col Narendra Behl; Kudos to the Executive Committee. What was unthinkable about 6 months before, has happened in the last few weeks. Pray God gives best health and happiness to all members of the EC. Lt Col(retd) GV Sreedhar; By well est principles and universally accepted parameters, :- The majority,Public opinion,The best possible decision/action,Right approach &action and Wisdom are with IESM. I,totally support everything done by IESM ,particularly \"advisory on voting\" & \"return/deposit of Medals\". In any human activity there would be voice of dissent -that should not effect IESM. Col A B G REDDY; Dear Sir, Ihad forwarded Rs 500/- as membership fee on 09 April,09 to Col Rajan, at Bangalore by post.The four forms were duly filled up.I am yet to recieve the acknowledgement.Kindly confirm the receipt as the cheque sent was payable at par by ICICI Bank.If already acknowledged ,please ignore this message and fwd the membership number. Thanks J Ramaswamy (12866) Gp Capt J Ramaswamy; Participation of IESM(in multiples of millions) as citizens , in democratic processes-political activity is in National interest besides legitimate welfare activities of OROP,parity and Ijjat. Col A B G REDDY; Should pre-2006 Defence pensioners expect to get revised PPOs from PCDA(PENSION)in due course with endorsement of family pension therein Lt COl (T.S.) Manjit Singh Khurana; It follows that the Commissioned Officers should also get the benefits of pay parity of OROP concept b\'coz they have immensely contributed to the struggle. Naik Balakrishna; We are small group of around 30 ex-servicemen in the out skrit of Mumbai(Uran Area)and would like to join and support the IESM. Please advise how to go about. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; Wg Cdr (retd) Sridhar Y S wants to join the Military veterans group. Can an invite be sent to him? He will become a member of IESM as well. Wg Cdr (retd) CAV Murthy; Well Done IESM! I would like to make IESM international. I would like to open an office of IESM in North America in USA.The goal will be to network all Ex defense personals in North America & create a support for the main movement of IESM in India. Major Gurjeet Singh; Dear Sir, While scrolling down the membership list I came accross following entry--\"Life Membership NK BAWINDAR KAUR WIDOW OF NARINDAR KOUR Army MECK-26 \" The particulars need checking for correct entry Brigadier C P JOSHI; Sir, Please intimate how to check the list of members as some of the JCO/OR\'s are enquiring and awaiting their receipts also since long time. Regards Lt. CDR BAL RAM; I feel that the site is good but could you consider the following 1.We should have a short form only for those who wish to donate having become members already.I for one may like to donate once some cash actually comes my way. 2.Cab we have a querry link so that one can download list of members either state/Town/Service wise Cdr R W Pathak; Dear Sir The members list on site is very muchoutdated.I understand the task is huge but may be outsourcing to a few of us would be possible.I do not mind doing a few data entry for the IESM if application details are mailed to me.Even me who has sent so many applications is not on the list Cdr R W Pathak; I did not find my name among the LIFE MEMBERS even though I became a LM almost in the begining. I wonder if my membership is hidden between serial numbers 45 to 100 among Life Memebers, not reflected in the table herein? Commodore Anil Kumar Dhir; Many of the names of members from Tamilnadu are not in the List of Life Members. What action is required to be taken? Col TN Raman; Today, I registered myself online. while doing so I noticed that the Rank coloumn has commaon ranks of three services hence I also selected my rank as CPO but when I saw the list of members they were having the actual rank instead of common rank. I suggest that we should have one option at the bottom to select the actual rank one held as PBOR for better clarity Master-At-Arms IB Singh; A friend had sent me an artical, which I found to be interesting and full of information. We need to organise ourselves into a potent force. Regards Col(Retd) DK Chandhok; this site must have a chat box where discutions can be done and information can be interchanged. sergeant lokesh gahlot; Today only I came to know about this website through Indian Express News paper. I will register through online soon. I am very happy that now all of us are together as a family to help each other and as a whole to support the Nation. Ex-Sgt Prasantha Kumar; Today only I came to know about this website through Indian Express News paper. I will register through online soon. I am very happy that now all of us are together as a family to help each other and as a whole to support the Nation. Ex-Sgt Prasantha Kumar; Sir, I am a Ex-Service men worked for Indian Navy During 1974-1985, retired on completion of bond tennure, then i didnot get permanent solution with the Govt,& come out with out Pension suport from Defence, presently with childerns care living at Pune, I will be greatful if you can get me benefits of retirement as Ex-Servicemen from the defence services for my livelyhood. regards Leading Seamen(India Anjaneyulu Talluri; I have sent a number of membership applications, including mine. I do not find the names in the membership lists. Col NK CHAUDHRY; i wish good luck to new govt and hope it will solve our problems sub maj kc tripathi; Girte hain shah spwar hi maidan-e-jung mein. Woh kufar kya girenge jo ghutno ke bal chale. keep it up Col Yogi; I just wonder as to why there is a long list of unconfirmed members ? What is required to convert from so called \"unconfirmed \" member to \"confirmed \" category ? Wg Cdr (Retd) Sushil Kumar Sudan; When trying check my record oone gets the message please enter your full name corrctly.The question is is it surname first or on any sequence? After Login i am not able to view members.When it is under Members area one should be able to see the list. Similarly if View feed back is under members Area one should be able to see the feed back.in members area are not yet useable and they are not in RED. For checking ones record there are two links on under Members area which says\'Search Your Rec Cdr Ravindra W Pathak; iesm is the necessity of the veteransof the time. congratulations to the founders. We must now act fast since the new govern,ment has sat on the chair with the support of our votes also. the veterans community have been devided into many pieces and as elephant we do not know our own strength. I am the President of Military Pensioners Association Kozhikode and we had once advanced an option to other associations to frame a common platform to voice our demands. No other organisations had them H/Capt (Retd) K Velayudhan; I have paid the sum of Rs.2000/= into the IESM account in HDFC bank through their branch at sarjapur Road Bangalore and the same has been debited from my account. This was on 22 dec.2008 as soon as the jantar Mantar Rally commenced. I informed Gen Satbir through his Mail ID. To this date I have not recieved any Menbership number nor reply. please do the needful to confirm my membership. W.Cdr V.Sampath; Unable to view list of members evan after following procedure given in the web site. Please advice. Wg.Cdr. V.Sampath; Now the elections are over and we must thank our core committee who worked to bring us togather. In my view there are number of laws governing the rule of pension for PBOR and authorities are contradicting their own say. I have been corresponding with MOD last from two year and even asked information under RTI for waiving the condition of 10 months in the last rank held for pension benefit of last rank for pre-96 pensioner and retaining the same condition for post- 96 and furhter now the pensio Master-At-Arms IB Singh; ( Contineous of above comment)Now the pension for those who retired post-2006 will be calculated on the basis of last pay drawn. I want to send my documents to support our say. please advise whom i should address. same time i request that we must invite other members also if they have evidences to prove disparity in pension and collectively put with the reasoning. this will help if we are taking legal process process in future. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; ( Contineous of above comment)Now the pension for those who retired post-2006 will be calculated on the basis of last pay drawn. I want to send my documents to support our say. please advise whom i should address. same time i request that we must invite other members also if they have evidences to prove disparity in pension and collectively put with the reasoning. this will help if we are taking legal process process in future. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; I am IC-17560H Lt Col(retd) GV Sreedhar. I sent my application for Membership on 13th Mar 2009 along with Pay-in-slip zerox of HDFC Bank(Bangalore JP Nagar Branch) direct transfer receipt for amount RS/-500.00 by registered post. Receipt of the same was signed on 18th Mar 09 and received by me on 22Mar09. I donot find my name in the list of Members. Lt Col GV Sreedhar; It is suggested that whereever surname is listed before the first name of a member, a comma ( , ) must be inserted after the surname. E.g. in my case it should be \"Grewal, Kirpal Singh\". Also \"Singh\" should not be treated as surname unless preceded by initials only, such as \"S. K. Singh\". This will ensure uniformity in the members list for search and sort operations. Thanks. Brig Kirpal Singh Grewal; Dear Sir, I enrolled as a life member at Jantar Mantar site in Jan 2009(Cheque No 595865 ICICI Bank,Cashed on 24/01/09).I donot find my name in your list. COL T R BHATIA; Respected Sir, We wish to introduce our organisation. We at Creative Placement are working exclusively for ESM resettlement. Our Creative Computers is empaneeled Institue with DGR - MOD - Govt Of India since 1994. We wish to have a meeeting with your Chairman for the resettlement of ESM. We offer 100% FREE Service to ESM. Hope to hear from you. Thank you Dhiraj Dharod - Director Creative Placement Web Site : www.creativeplacement.org Civilian Dhiraj Dharod; how do i locate my name in the list.Is there any order in which the names appear colonel n.viswanathan; I joined on 26Dec08,paid vide Axis Bank,amount Rs 5000(five thousand only).My name is not there in members list. Cdr N S Chauhan; 1.Please add Signals against my name at Army Ser 79 sheet 2.Listing may be done as per rank for fast search Col Malaiappan K; dear sirs, pension payment of officers has been increased but the the pension payment of ORS not yet , what is the progress on this behalf, kindly inform. thankyou h capt B. B. BHATT s/m. h capt b b bhatt; Excellent, it is a goog idea to open site for editing their own data themselves. But I find that it is not fully functional and I could not updaye my data/rofile. my nahe in members list figures at two places i.e. wti id no. 0000036L having name JWO RB Singh and other without any no. with name JWO Rajbahadur Singh. I tried to edit but could not. Further, if possible one more column may be added to post present Status (in case of re-employed veterans) which will be usefull in integrating all vete JWO RB Singh; I do not see my name in the members\' list !!Also, on page 4 of Navy members list, I see a Gp Capt Behl. Is he a Capt or should he be moved to IAF list ??Regards..........K K Punchhi Cdr K K Punchhi; My name does not appear in the list>Cant find membership NumberDohelp Brig.(retd) M L MEHRA; Dear Sir, I had applied for membership of IESM in Jan 2009. I had deposited a sum of Rs 5000/- in HDFC bank A/c no- 06162000001330 on 27th Jan 2009 in BRS Nagar, Ludhiana Branch. Also I had sent an application duly filled to your Gurgaon address. Rs500/- was requested to be adjusted against my life membership fee whilst Rs4500/- was donation made by me to the IESM. To my dismay I find that my name has not yet appeared in the member ship list. Moreover, since I do not have the login ID I am COLONEL DEVINDER ; IESM wesite is under development .Kindly bear with us for few more days. jwo hg ingh; Please update and post online the list of members with contact details. It shall also help us to find our old collegues. List of articles/MOU of the IESM may please be made available on line. Lt ColRetd) sk sharma; I find a duplication in my membership details with two IDs as under: ID 628 Col K MOHANDAS CHITTUR/Palakkad ID 1904 Col Mohandas K Palakkad I am based at CHITTUR?Palakkad and to the best of my knowledge there is no ther retired Col with the name K Mohandas at Palakkad. You may recheck and correct. Regards, Mohan Col K Mohandas; Ref my comment in guest book in 17/06/09.Confirmation regarding correction of Rank awaited.Regards,///22/06/09.. Lt Col shakti kumar roy; My rank has been shown as Cmde Please have it corrected as Air Cmde. Will be obliged for a confirmation... Air Cmde JNP Bhatt; Adm Ghosh has talked about IESM Presetation.It would be good if this/draft could be put on this website for all to see.We hope the issue of disparity in rates of Disablity pension of pre2006 retirees is included,there will be no second time for projecting this as being contemplated by some core gp members.This is very much a substantive OROP issue & not an anomoly!! brig as kahlon; ; google google Allen Allen; ; Sir I am active member of IESM and also volinteer of ELEN education Trust. Sir Tremendous, illegal act has been done by banks by denial of ex serviceman quota after written and interviewin OBC and IOB exam to me and other ex men.Sir something to be done other wise fate and futture of ex men not safe. What the Resettlement board is doing I can understand. sgt MANOJ KUMAR; As mentioned by Brig Kahlon Sahaab, about disparity in disablity pension. I also request our core gp to kindly consider in the presentation the anomoly of holding rank for 10 month in the last rank. Maximum Airforce and Naval personnel retired as PBOR are effected. For post-2006 retirees PPO are revised based on last pay drawn. Whereas for pre-2006 retires condition of holding rank for 10 month still exist. Hence many PBOR are not getting pension of last rank. I request that it should be include Master-At-Arms IB Singh; Membership No is still awaited. Expedite Lt Col Xavier PA; Views of Col K Jespal as put on web on 8 jun-paras 1 to 35 , needs to be persued by org/ass ,i e by IESM.We should not leave it to individuals to persue ,as it happened in past by NAKRA,DHANAPALAN,Maj Gen case..etc. Enforcement/implementation of LAW OF LAND already pronounced in regards to OROP by diverse approaches and methods such as APEALS,PERSUATIONS,MEDIA PUBLICITY,AGITATIONS,PROTESTS,POLITICAL ACTIVISM....AND JUDICIAL APPROACH should continue. Lt Col A B G REDDY; I had sent a substantial amount of contribution amounting to over Rs 10,000/.No repeat NO receipt or acknowledgement has been received.Also the Membership acceptance and details have NOT been received till date.Request an EARLY response and action. Maj General JS Talwar,AVSM,Retd; My record shows Rs 2000.00 as membership fee.It should read Rs 500.00.Rs 2000.00 was remitted as donation amount in addition.There is NO response to emails addressed to Maj Gens ,Satbir singh & PK Renjen in this regard.How long would it take to get membership number allocation? I had registerd on line on 05 May,2009. Wg Cd (Retd) Sudan Sushil Kumar; My application for life membership was forwarded through AIR FORCE ASSN PALAKKAD. But, I don\'t find my name under air force list. Could you clarify? SERGEANT R.R.UNNI; I enrolled myself as a member vide my application dt 22 Dec 2008(IESM membership form submitted in manuscript); enclosed a chq No 275294 Dt 22 Dec 2008 for Rs 500/- drawn on SBI Defence Colony N Delhi 110024 May I pls have my id no/Regd Number etc as I am unable to locate the same on your website. Thanks Lt COl (T.S.) Manjit singh Khurana; All the members are requested to login and see their profile detail in member area. JWO HG SINGH; IESM should fwd their paper on OROP to all -COS,cab secy,RM,PM,PRES ...etc with endorsement that those auth nominated by the Govt have not called IESM in those meetings and they have not heared you. Later , we have the justification for blaming those for doing anything short of OROP and cotinuation of the agitation. heared IESM Lt Col-retd A B G Reddy; OROP is well explained in the land mark recent judgement of supreme court, hence there shall not be any thing more or less. it is fight for principle or values. Now is the time to remian united. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; It is recommended that the lists of members could be published in spread sheet format(windows/open office) state wise. This will facilitate mutual contact and interaction with members.Also this will help in bringing in more members who can help and assist the org in many ways. Col RP Gopalan; Have twice earlier queried about the confirmation of the receipt of membership fee of Rs 500/- paid on 13 Aug in Noida & of the contribution of Rs 5000to Maj Gen Satbir but till date have yet to receive any response. The members\' details showed only Rs 200/- against my name. Would appreciate a confirmation of both amounts. Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Dear Sir, under \"Login\" I have registered number of times. The message I get is that registered successfully but after that whenever I try to log in it says Id or password incorrect try again. This time I noted both things in my diary and inspite that it says Id or password in correct pl retry. Pl solve the problem Wg Cdr Rajeeve Lochan; Sir,I had send a life membership form along with DD for Rs:500/- on 22 May 09. Till date no information received. Sqn Ldr M Abdul Rahim; Sir,I had send a life membership form along with DD for Rs:500/- on 22 May 09. Till date no information received. Sqn Ldr M Abdul Rahim; I do not find my name in the list of registered members. I had personally given a cheque for Rs 500/- to Maj Gen Satbir Singh at his residence in Sector 23. This was around the time the first lot of medals was deposited. Kindly check if my name is there. I may be intimated the ID, if my name has been registered. Maj Gen VK Singh; Nothing to celebrate on FM budget speech about OROP for PBORs (not clear what he had understood with OROP)and leaving Officers. This is old Divide & Rule Theory. We should not allow these tactics to succeed and stand unitidly against this. Jai Hind. Ex- JWO RB Singh; I am confused with the statement made by FM, As stated in his speech that all pre-97 will be brought at par with post-97 and all pre-2006 retirees with post-2006. Enhance pension will be effective from July 09. If all pre-2006 retirees will be brought at par with post-2006 retirees and there is no arrear of pension than why specific mention of pre-97 to post- 97 and again pre-2006 to post-2006. It should be only all pre-2006 retirees will be brought at par with post-2006 retirees. This is very Master-At-Arms IB Singh; As two earlier views expressed,there is nothing of OROP in that sp by FM -it is evade,confuse,deceive,devide and rule.It was out of compulsion after SC judgement. Therefore,awake-unite and arise . focus on issues and standup united. Lt Col Bala; Sir In the budget speech FM has mentioned the OROP scheme only about PBOR at the cost of 2100 crores. The same was reported in the news papers too. What about the officers? rajnath Lt col(retd) Rajnath Kumar; Sir, I intend to become life member of the IESM, I shall be much thankfull,if you be kind enough to intimate me application form or Website to download the form, Thanking you sir, Ex Hony S/LT(MCPOR(T Bachan Nagiyal; Kindly include the Date of commission/ enrollment in the Membership application Form. Colonel Raman TN; Dear Sir i have registered online. I am neither able to view my record nor able to log in after having created userID through the website. Yoy are requested to intimate user ID and log in details for email also. Thanking you. Major Subhash Chand Sharma; i have seen few mails from the officers asking to be united only to officers. we all ESM are togather for this cause and there are enormeous annomolies in the case of PBORs also. we must fight togather for this common cause of OROP till implemented accross all ranks also request our core committee to invite suggestion where the conditions are contradicting even in the same rank. I quote few example as army has system of Hon. Nb subedar promotion system which is not in other services. post-2006 Master-At-Arms IB Singh; u have achieved a very gud result for our veterans but ther govt it seems have not accepted our demand of OROP. means still we have to go little more. let us not sleep on it H/Capt K Velayudhan; The near OROP for JCOs & ORs have been accepted and announced in the Finance Bill for 2009 -2010. What about the same for the officers? There seem to be no comment form the IESM nor from any of the other service Foundations and org. How it is perceived and what action plan for the next level, have not been posted at all by any of the leaders or the IESMovement. Has the Movement lost its gas? Can somebody please let us know what is the next action being planned? Col Shiv Rana; My id No. is 2139. and deposited membership fee in HDFC on 9-6-09. (No receipt No. available). No membership details are received. Kindly check at your own time with regards Unni Tharakkal JWO Easwaran Unni; Can I have the list of Members from Tamilnadu? Col Raman TN; The date of Commission/ Enrollment is NA in the Application Form published in the WEB. I am NOT refering to on line Registration. Col TN Raman; It will be a great welfare site for IESM Sub Maj Mohmad Shafi; Iam proud to inform you ,ibecame a member in IESM ,and efferts onto encrese the strength of IESM members from PALAKKAD KERALA under the leadership of sqn ldr RAJAN wo K chandrasekharan; Dear Sir, G of I , M of D Depa/Department of exserviceman welfare letter No. 1(8) /2008D (Pen/Policy) dated 12 June 09 provides for notional fixation of pay for the purpose of pention only for Hon ranks given to Havildars to Hon rank of Naib Sub which is a welcome and highly appreciated decision. A similar provision notional fixation for the purpose of pension only could have been made in the case of a subadar granted Hon rank of sub Maj, a sub Maj granted Hon rank of Hon Lt, and Hon Lt grant Sub Maj/Hon Lt. A.Unni Krishnan Nair; Sir, As mentioned above by Sub Maj/Hon. Lt AU Krinshnan Nair, I would like to know why this facility of honorary promotion from Hav to Hon Nb Subedar does not exist in the Navy and Airforce or the provision of this regulations are kept isolation by the Naval and Airforce authorities. There are number of ESM who are not getting pension of the rank they retired who has not completed 10 month of service in the last rank. In addition the pension of present retirees are consider on the basis of the Master-At-Arms IB Singh; (in continuation of above comment) last pension drawn. Therefore by system itself the present retirees are taken care of last pension previllages. In the context of present condition where we are fighting of OROP some of the ESM from Navy and Airforce are not even getting the pension of the last rank they served. I request core committee to kindly take up this issue in the interest of PBOR who are deprived of their legitimate right. I have raised this issue in my previous comments also. I hop Master-At-Arms IB Singh; I am unable to check my record even after clicking \" Check your Record\" How can I overcome this problem? I registered myself as a life member through Col T N Raman, State Convenor, Tamil Nadu Lt Col R Subramanian; Dear Sir, with reference to the remarks by Master at Arms IB Singh it is mentioned that in the Vith Pay commission the rank for the purpose of pension means the rank last held and not the rank in which pensioned. it should be clear now. Sub Maj/Hon Lt A. Unnikrishnan Nair; sir, Further to my earlier comment on the view expressed by Master At Arms IB singh Please refer to Note 1 of annexure 3 to G of I M Of D letter no, 17(4)2008(1)/D/(Pen/Policy) dated 11 Nov 2008 refers to para 16.3 which reads\" Rank means rank last held and not he rank for which pensioned\". So contention of Master at arms IB singh that personnel are not getting pension for last rank held by them is not according to pension policy. Sub Maj/Hon Lt A. Unnikrishnan Nair; My date of commission is 30 Aug 1964. Kindly enter this in my profile Secondly, membership no has not been received. Thirdly, how to check my record without logging in? Lt Col R Subramanian; I express sincere thanks for the views of above comment. My simple querry is all pre-2006 pensioners are entitle for pension of last rank only if he hold that rank for 10 month prior to retirement, weather the same condition is applicable to those who are retiring post-2006. I have seen PPO of post-2006 retirees based on the last rank held only for 4 months. i simply request weather the condition of holding 10 month exist for post-2006 pensioners. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; As outlined by H Lt Nair Sahaab, Note 1 of above letter is with reference to family pension only. MOD letter 17/(4)2008(2)D(pen/Policy) dt 12/11/08 for post-06 Table at para 3.1 calulate pension on the basis of last pay drawn. but the condition of post-2006 for retaining the period of holding 10 months in the last rank is not waived off. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; It is seen that some members appear twice on the list.May be a recheck would bring out this.For instance Lt Cdr D M Purohit has two ID\'s Cdr Ravindra Pathak; 1.After Login when i access my profile it is showing profile of Lt Col Y R Puri. 2.Refer my feedback earlier.There are double entires for many members. Cdr Pathak R W; Please read parac (c) of the latest blog on OROP by Maj Navdeep on http://www.indianmilitary.info. Lt Col (Retd) Sandeep Pandit; A draft of Rs. 500.00 towards my membership fee sent on 06 July 09 but I have not received any acknowledgement or membership card. 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Recommend this link be checked for its functioning Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap; My name is spelt wrongly in the members list My correct name is NARAYANAN and not repeat not NAYAYANAN my email id is also wrongly shown correct e mail id is narayananva@gmail.com kindly do the needful BRIGADIER NARAYANAN V A; My Mem.No. is NOT visible in view mem.categorywise gP.CAPT. `J.Sivaraman; Dear Sir, 1..Kindly check my membership number Website is giving my membership number as AFGP.CAPTKAR00 2.Kindly confirm at my email id bhinderjs@gmail.com if this membership number is correct or not? Thanking you, Regards, JSBhinder Gp.Capt.(Retd) Gp.Capt. JSBhinder; I tried to check my membership details but despite entering my name in various forms, could not check the details. pl advise. Lt Gen SK Bahri; My name is not in the list. I became member on 13 Aug, 2008 at NOIDA. regards IC 6834, Col Shivraj Kumar Signals COL SHIVRAJ; I loggedin but when I wanted to view my profile it is showing blank format with no information. Please let me know when all info is likely to be updated so that I can view and edit my profile if required. Thank you Col T N Baba; Sir, my name is spelt incorrectly in the members list. My ESM membership number is AF1-KA002576L. My name is spelt MOHALANOBISH. Could that be corrected ? Wg Cdr US Mohalanobish; Dear Friends, After registering in I could not sign in with the same user name & id? My Particulars in the list of members are correct. Thank you and God bless you. Love,regards & best wishes. Jugal Lt.Col. J.K.Barry; Refer remarks of Maj Gen Talwar.His membership details are 1540 AY1HAR001540L Maj Gen Talwar JS Panchkula .He should see the site after login Cdr Ravindra Pathak; I do not find my name in the list of members. I had given a cheque of Rs 500 personally to Gen Satbir in his house many months ago. It was around the time we returned the first lot of medals. If required, I can get the details from by bank. Maj Gen VK Singh; I am not able to log in although I have given my correct user name narayananva and correct password BRIGADIER V A Narayanan; Sir, I am already a member. I am trying to check my records at the web site but i am not able toaccess it beyond where i am asked to fill my name and there after i amm asked to select id , Army number and name but it does not respond. Kindly advice as to how to check my records. Regards Lt Col(Retd) SC Bali, SM; I am widow of Spr KPS Tomer got my family pension last year but till now I did not get Insurance of my late husband. Can you help me? 1471459 SAVITA W/O kRISHANPAL SINGH TO; I am widow of Spr KPS Tomer got my family pension last year but till now I did not get Insurance of my late husband. Can you help me? 1471459 SAVITA W/O kRISHANPAL SINGH TO; Dear Sir, I am widow of Spr KPS Tomer got my family pension last year from PCDA Meerut but till now I did not get Insurance of my late husband. Can you help me? Thanks Yours truly 1471459 SAVITA W/O kRISHANPAL SINGH TO; I just now verified the list of members. I find that my name is not found in any of the alphabetical lists of the Army--- Rao, Gadepally kameswara. or Rao GK, or Kameswara Rao,G, or Rao G Kameswara, or Gadepally Kameswara Rao, or iany other form. My personal No. is MR 03194Y. I had sent a bank draft for Rs 500 life membership quite a few months back along with the application form. In fact Brig M JayaRao--ser No 161 membership No AYBRIG.AND0001,MR 01919, Secunderabad Army , had applied a l Lt Col G.Kameswara Rao; I had send the Life membership Form with DD for Rs:500 on 23 May 09.Till date no response from IESM Sqn Ldr(Retd) M Abdul Rahim; Ref 1033 AY1UTT001033LKindly amend Personal No to read;IC 12806 Col NK CHAUDHRY; While checking my membership details online, I have found the following discrepancies :- Amount deposited is 500/- Against ID 3499, Payment details are not shown, wehereas I had keyed-in as thru SBI vIDYARANYAPURA Bangalore 560014 Electronic Transfer vide UTR SBINH 09222736176 dayed 10 Aug 09 Wg. Cdr. SACHAR VED PARKASH; My date of birth is 13 feb 1938 I am not able to update same n my profile kindly update BRIGADIER V A Narayanan; Kindly allot the membership no., membership sbscription of 500/- has been remitted to-day thru SBI VIDYARANYAPURA, BANGALORE 560097, THRU ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSER AND THE DETAILS SENT TO YOU. THANKX WG.cdr. sachar ved parkash; free porn flash free porn vidoe amateur free rape and incest porn pictures NeeddyVew; I am yet to be alloted a membership no though i have paid the subscrption fees & alos a deposit.I did receive an email from Gen Renjen regarding some queries.though i had answered the quey, i find no follow up action there after.The way many people\'s queries indicate. the memebrship registartion process need improvemnet Col VT Venkatesh; Hello Sir! I had requested for opening a \'Cell\' for helping the old veterns e.g. veterns of World War II vintage etc. My mail was acknowledged by Brig Kamboj yesterday i.e. originated at 10.20 PM on 10 Aug 09. Could you please confirm whether the request is under consideraion and whats\' the likelyhood of this request being agreed to? Thanks, Wg Cdr S.C. Bhutani (Retd). Wg Cdr S.C. Bhutani; I was info that pay scale of re-employed offrs (Post 6th PC)is available on this site,however I could not find. Could you please guide me on the sbject? Thanks & regards Col Pramod Kumar; Since I am living in US,would like join IESM how do I deposit and what amount in dollers to HDFC bank,Thanks Sergeant Ram N.Sajnani; sir, i have registered in IESM in the month of feb 09, when i was in delhi visit. can i confirm my registeration if pls send me my id by Email .what am i next to do 4 IESM>. Ex POME melbin xavier; sir, i have registered in IESM in the month of feb 09, when i was in delhi visit. can i confirm my registeration if pls send me my id by Email .what am i next to do 4 IESM>. Ex POME melbin xavier; What is the total membership of IESM. Break up by services and officers/JCO\'s/OR\'s be furnished? Brigadier R K Mehta; I always poen and see the in box of my mail and finds the details of calculation of pension is always given or circulated for officers only.There are PBOR\'S Also who need this.Who Will...??? Sgt (Retd) I.A.F. Jagdip Singh Sr,VP. AIDB Mohal; I always open and see the in box of my mail and finds the details of calculation of pension is always given or circulated for officers only.There are PBOR\'S Also who need this.Who Will...??? Sgt (Retd) I.A.F. Jagdip Singh Sr,VP. AIDB Mohal; I have seen a mail where it is mentioned that banks have been instructed to accept voters ID card as proof of age for pensioners above 80 years of age. I see no necessity of this as your date of birth is mentioned in your PPO. If I remember correctly the mail has ben sent by Maj Gen Renjen. Kindly elucidate Col VK Diddee; Unable to login, even after registering. Unable to know availability of username and no of charactors required for password. Also no official news, latest status, about one rank one pansion availsble in the site. Site is responding too slow. No memership no received or visible in the site, username can be the unique mambership no. expect reply to mail id. Sgt Manoj Kumar VA; IESM IS SURELY GROWING DAY BY DAY. I AM CONFIDENT IESM WILL TAKE THE LEAD ONE DAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL EX-SERVICE COMMUNITY OF THIS COUNTRY. KINDLY TRY AT THE EARLIEST TO GET RECOGNISED BY THE GOVT/MOD SO THAT WE CAN SEND OUR MEMBERS TO ALL THE FORUMS WHERE EX-SERVICEMEN MATTERS ARE TAKEN PLACE TO GET OUR DUES CORRECTLY. WITH WARM WISHES SGT SRINIVASAN R; I had sent the membership form along with SBI ,Ridge Rd,Jabalpur cheque No 523382 for Rs 500/-in Dec 2008. The amount has also been debited from my acct on 02 Jan 2009.I ,however,could not find my name in the list of members recently put up on your portal.I am fully aware of the constraints under which you work without any staff to help you ,so I only request that some one goes thro\' the records and corrects the omission that has taken place.Rgds,IC-29986 Lt Col DS Walia (Retd)Signals, Lt Col (Retd) DS Walia; There is another website: www.iesm.in/index.html; whats the difference/similarity between the two. At times, I find myself on the wrong site for looking what I need and I cant find then. Wg Cdr Raj Kumar Poonia; This is great beginning , I am looking forward to greater heights of this forum. This will not only bring us together but also will build the nation even after our retirement from the Armed forces through us. I would like to say my thanks and best wishes to the team who had this inspiration of moving towards this cause of EX Servicemen EX SGT P.Thomas; In my personal opinion, the registration could be made free and donations asked for specific events or for expenditures incurred. As it is there are enough number of forums which are claiming to represent ex-servicemen. Some of them are competing with each other instead of working together. There are internal conflicts too in some of the forums because of personality or ego clashes. Wishing you all the Best to succeed in your efforts. Thomas Wg Cdr (Retd) Thomas Verghese; I am the President of Military Pensioners Association which is at Kozhikode in Kerala. We are helping veterans to sort out their post retirement problems to maximum extent. All veterans can contactr us our Tele No 0495-2725508. We have experienced staff to do it. All veterans can contact on the above number. Our moto is SERVICE TO VETERANS at their expense H/Capt (Retd) K Velayudhan (Retd); Dear Sir, I have come to know of this site very late. However i am following the activities of IESM through TV and other media. I am planning to attend the 30-8-09 veterans meet. wish the event every success. Regards. Suri Leading Aircraftsman sriramamurthy suri; sir, today I have been deposite of membership fee in HDFC Bank sarjapur bangalore branch code-354,Iex-Hav mahendra kumar already filled the form on line pl necessary action hav mahendra kumar; Hello Gen /Hi! Navdeep-What is the LOGIC behind OROP? When OLD PENSIONERS are getting PRESENT DA, MSP, then How can they DEMAND PRESENT DAY BASIC PAY? 26 Aug 09, 09:48 Red Indian: Hi! Navdeep - What is RATIONALE behind OROP? When PENSIONERS are getting CURRENT DA, MSP, How can OLD BASIC PAY can be equated to PRESENT BASIC PAY ? Col Red Indian; Respected si, you have not alloted the id no,we have deposited the membership fee by 25.you have also confirm it. thank you sir hav mahendra kumar; I am keen to be part of this movement. Can i deposit the subscription of Rs 200/- directly in IESM Acct as given in the site writing my name etc on the back side of the cheque. This will save time and cost of courier. The account details as given in the site are :- Indian Ex Servicemen Movement(IESM)Account No: 06162000001330Name of Bank: HDFC Bank, Palam Vihar BranchBank Code:110240109IFSC Code No: HDFC 0000616.do confirm. I reside in Ghaziabad and work in Noida.RegardsPr sub prem goswami; SIR, I would like to draw your kind attention,that police sub inspector and commissioned officer with three year service exp. for same post can be offered one of the post advertised by ITDC ie www.theashokagroup.com intention of this issue is that comm. offr. status parallel to si of police. CHAM (CPO) aryaprakash awasthi; For wide circulation Dear All, Natural therapy for heart vein opening Please pass it to your colleagues or friends. For Heart Vein opening 1) Lemon juice 01 cup 2) Ginger juice 01 cup 3) Garlic juice 01 cup 4) Apple vinegar 01 cup Mix all above and boil in light flame approximately half hour, when it becomes 3 cups, take it out and keep it for cooling. After cool CHAM (CPO) Arya prakash; sir, my father who is also retired from ary is not getting intital of above 80 year binifit due to not mention of date of birth in pension book only age at the time of joining army. kindy let us know about further procedure. thans nk jasbir singh gandhi; I do not find my name in the members list.I had sent my enrolment form and the cheque to Gen Kadyan and even read my name in a mail as an enrolled member. Lt Gen R I S Kahlon; I was retired from Corps of EME on 01 Oct 2008. Till date I have not recieved any arrear of pay not even 40% arrear. Ex man from Signal, Armd, Inf and all other Arms and Services get first istallment of arrear in Apr May 2009 and now they are awaiting for second installment. Govt has announced that second installment will be paid in the month of Sep 09. Till date Ex man from EME have not recieved even first installment. You are requested to take up a case with EME Records to forward both install Hony Sub Maj Ravinder Kumar; what is in brief of OROP decision of the government announced by Finance minister on 6th July09 ? what a MWO is expected under the new announced ? Master warrant offic MK Gangadharan; Membership Fee of Rs.500/-deposited in I E S M Account vide Cheque No 239237 dated 13 Aug 2009 and responded by I E S M Team same day by e-mail. Req issue me Membership/Registration NO. Very best wishes for I E S M Team . Wg Cdr (Retd) H C Vidyarthi Wg Cdr H C VIDYARTHI; Request contact details of Col IJS Lamba, EME (Retd), IESM Membership no 3416. We were college mates. I am a LM(AF1KAR000020L) Wg Cdr Ravi Mani; Dear Sir, Is IESM is having any office in Kerala. If so, please give me the address. Or any plan to open office in Kerala? regards Moses HM JWO Moses HM; The problem that I was having wrt the login has been resolved by informing me of the login ID & Password. Thank U so very much, I have updated my profile by completing colns that hadn\'t been filled up. Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap; Financial Rules/Regulations are missing from the provisions/particulars detailed on the web under \"Rules\", or any other link for that matter . If there are such rules these should be available to members on the web-site. Brig R N Awasthy; In up most of zila sainik kalyan adhikari posts snatched by sdm, ao,audit officer & etc. unable to run office creating corruption in office dirctor also knows but not showing +ve attitude.MOST corrupt organisation run in up ie up purva sainik kalyan nigam ,big cheaters some place it is presented as govt. organisation,somewhere as private organisation,exmen due lack of awarenessbeing victimised by this org. Most of them retd. army officers nk somnath; Design of system needs a little correction to make it more user friendly for editting certain fields before the membership no. is allotted.Membership no. should be allotted only after all the fields have been correctly filledup. Thankx wg cdr vp sachar; My compliments,A very good site. Brig JS Sawhney; May I request that means of contributing funds to0 IESM be clearly displayed on the site. I want to do so but can\'t find how to do it and I don\'t want to do it online. Sending a cheque/DD would be best for me. xxx harri; Apart from my initial contribution ,I had mase a donation of Rs 500/which is not reflected in my profile.My membership No is 003493L.I had made it under ref 6056A1(HDFC Net transfer) on 07/08/2009 Col VT Venkatesh; I have paid the Life Membership fees Rs. 500/- vide cheque No 266105 and same has been debited on 08 Aug 09. Please let me know when I will be receiving my Life Membership Number. Regards, Lt Col K R Rao Lt Col K R Rao; I enrolled as a member in Jan 2009 at JantarMantar New Delhi and have a receipt for Rs 500/-.My name does not appear in the list.I had gone there with Gen Satbir. IC-10577N COL T R BHATIA COL T R BHATIA; I deposted Rs. 2000/= into the ECHS accunt as early as on receipt of the first email message anouncing opening of the accountint and calling for funds. this was during the begining of the relay fast at jantar mantar. i followed it up with a detail email to Maj.Gen. satbir requesting for my inclussion as a life member. i have sent the details then. subsequently have followed up with similar messages to Wg. cdr. SK sharma too. In fact i did complain about not finding my name in the list for which Wg.cdr. V.sampath; How do I get my membership number Col Shivraj Kumar; The web-site of IESM needs a professional touch. Lt Col Anand Prakash Singh; I have sent my subs through HDFC bank cheque in Mar 09. However, am unable to trace my name and number. Plse help. Col Dipak M karnik; 1)I have donated INR 5000/but not reflected in my profile.2) how to become a life member? Lt.Col. Vijay Kaushik; I have learned about the selfless service to promote ourselves. I am from Bangalore and I wish to register with IESM. capt william; Congratulations to Gen Renjen & his team on completing the Registration platform. Thanks & Regards Maj Gen BS Keron; I have applied for membership on 01 Jul 2009 and had paid the amount of Rs. 600/-on 30 Jun. I donot find my name in the list of members. I know the problem of updating due to lack of manpower, so waited for some time. Every one as office bearers are doing a wonderful job. with regards Col. S. Srikantha; My membership No. 000017L.My profile is blank; Hence I filled up various columns in order to edit my profile. Next clicked the \'SUBMIT\'. I repeatedly got the message \'ERROR\'. So, how do I update my profile? GP CAPT BV RAO; I was enable to enter your box to veiw what should be my pension. It says \'no PPO \' ISSUED FOR dDE JONAS, 10131. AVM D E JONAS; I had paid Rs 500/- in cash on 13 Aug 2008, at the mtg held in Noida,towards the Membership subscription but in the member\'s profile this is indicated as 0, this may pl be corrected. Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap; buy cialis buy levitra buy propecia buy lasix QnLHtqLNvamvFBsTNq Message; Had remitted Rs 500/ as membership fee thru HDFC Bank Vasant Kunj, ND, on 09/07/09 vide ref no 583730. FT 06162000001330,Indian Ex Servicemen Movement, refers. Rqst confirm receipt of amt & fwd membership no. Thanks Maj virendra sareen; Well done so far IESM(.) must keep on pressing hard till we get to the aim. We have to be a bit more aggressive now. Next time we org a Maharally, we should olan a road hold up for 12 Hrs and Train Hold up for 6 hrs to start with. Unless we don\'t behave foolishly we will no be heard. What are your views Lt Col K K Choudhary; today i paid rs.1000/=to ur hdfc bank a/c c.no 406345 dt.23/9/09.drawn on hdfc bank,shanti van,borivali(E),MUMBAI,400066 branch.pl conf,n my id no.(rs500/membership+rs500/donatin) wg.cdr K.S.S.RANA.; I have enrolled as a Life Member but I have not been allocted any membership number. Other names have membership numbers. Why not mine? Gp Capt VK Vidyadhar; ECHS issue of medicines require improvement/change. As at present, if the prescribed medicine is not available an in lieu medicine is issued.Further this in lieu brand medicine is changed every time you visit again. Many times,pills of exact dosage are not available.So one is told to break the tablet into two to reduce streangth.NOW THIS IS NOT ALLOWED FOR COATED TABLETS, BUT THE ECHS AT AHMEDABAD INSISTS IT IS OK. It is recommended that cost of original prescribed medicine be re-imbursed AS Gp Capt KP Sharma; Ref my msg of sep/07.Cfmd website checked and data updated.Thanks .... Wg Cdr H C Vidyarthi Wg Cdr H C VIDYARTHI; Dear Sir, I want to join as a member and and want to deposit medals as well.I cannot find the Application Form on sight.Right now I am in Canada, coming to India in mid october for three months.I will send the subscription by Citi Bank Cheque. Kindly advise action. Jaspartap Bath Major(Retd) Jaspartap Singh Bath; Sir, I have transferred Rs. 500-/ from my HDFC A/C to your A/C No. 06162000001330 on 22 Sep 09 as Membership Fee. Kindly acknowledge and advise me further action. SAM Wg Cdr M K Swaminathan; How to quickly access any name of a member? How do we access details of a member,using his name or rank? Is it possible to select a goup of members from a particular region, say Gurgaon? If they are ther, please advise how to go about it. If not,U may please consider building the system keeping these in mind Brigg YS RAO; I HAVE FORGOTTEN MY MEMBERSHIP NO. MY NAME APPERS AT 259 COL N S BHINDER; I could not see my profile. Perhaps it is still to be entered. I will wait and check again after couple of weeks. From the Army list I saw that there is lack of uniformity in that some names are in all capitals and others in running letters. More glaring is the way the Unit name is spelt. For example Sikh LI is spelt as Sikhli, SikhLi, Sikh li and so on. Similarly Mechanised Infantry is spelt as Mech or Mack and so on. May be these can be corrected even without waiting for editing by the indivi Colonel T N Baba; I viewed my profile and found some mistakes. I tried to correct them through edit profile but error message came. Kindly note the folowing corrections. 1.Date of Birth- 11 Feb 1944 2.Date of Commn- 25 Dec 1965 3. Adddress: U 26C/11 Ground Floor, DLF City Phase III, Gurgaon- 122002, Haryana 4. Contact Number: 9899692649 5. E mail: tnb369@hotmail.com 6.Unit : SIGNALS 7. Donation: Rs 5000/- 8. Membership Amt : Rs 500/- Thank you for making these correction at your earliest. T N Baba Colonel T N Baba; Membership no not recd till date. Paid Rs 500/ thru HDFC bank in July 09 maj virendra sareen; I feel that old or outdated news should not reflect under flash news. Recent breaking news only should appear under such provision SGT R.R.UNNI. BA,LL.B; My name in the Army Names appears twice as under 003111L IC20761 Lt Col Gulra Jani R J 1360, Golder Colony Mogapair Road Chennai Tamil Nadu 600050 001213L 20761 Lt Col Gulrajani RJ 1360 Golden Colony, Mogapair Rd, Chennai Tamil Nadu 600050 Please remove the first entry (as it has my name split in two) and retain the second one. Thank you. Lt Col Gulrajani RJ; ; Dear Sir, I had enrolled as a member on the day I returned my medals in sector 37 opp ECHS. I see my name not appearing in the list of members. It should have been close to Commodore P K Jain G75 sector 25. My address is D25 sector 41 and the receipt for Rs 500/signed by Cdr SS Ahuja is held by me. Kindly update list and give my ESM No. MyP NO. 01158F Mobile 09818332085 commander IN Pavan Kumar jJain; I had sent my membership fee in cash thru a team sent from Gujarat for Dharna at Jantar Mantar.on 30 Jan. My name is not included in the list of member. Pl verify from Col. Kirit Joshipura and action. Sqn.Ldr. Bankim Sutaria; My name does not appear in the list of members. May please reconcile. Brig Rakesh Chander; The website provides a platform to share one\'s views about the problems the ESM fraternity are facing. There are lot to be done, to make the site exhaustive. I think, blogs are given undue importance. Instead, we should give a seperate section for \'official news\' from the IESM rathene than clubbing it with blog. My one suggestion, please include the list of office bearers or contacts in states so that one can contact them for associating with IESM. For instance, I have been searching somebod SUB ANILKUMAR; Dear Sirs, While all the anamolies for LT COL(TS) has been atken care of by clubbing them in PB4.But what about majors and below who would have put in 24 years of service before they came out. Any suggestions pl. Regards KK Tiwari Major KK TIWARI; Sir, My name appears in the membership list. But membership No. is not allotted. I have filled up all details. But it shows at places\'nil\'. How do i inform the discrephancies in the profile? When I go to \'Edit profile\', it does not correct. Same\'oooo\'reappears. Kindly reconcile. Thanks, Sam Wg Cdr M K Swaminathan; Happy Diwai to all the veterans.Let the light present outside inter in our hearts and enlighten us. JWO HG SINGH; IESM made unity among the ex- servicemen keep it up all the support all support from palakkad kerala wo kc sekharan; My membership details not yet updated. App. was sent by Sp Post on 5.7.09, Cheque for Rs 200/ sent with my application credited to your a/c on 12.10.09. In my opinion the office staff need to take much quicker steps in acknowledging the recpt of application and updating the membership.If IESM has to make a niche for itself to be heard and be prominently visible, a corporate like work culture much diff. from the government days has to develop. It is my suggestion not a criticism. MCHEARII(MCPOII) Vijoy Krishna Ambasta; It is commendable effort to organize such a huge number of people and bring them under one ambrella. It would be better if the name of the personnel listed can be arranged in either ascending or descending order. Nevertheless appreciable job. MCEAA RCYADAV; I have sent 3-4 mails already.My name does not appear in the list though I became a member last year at Jantar Mantar COL T R BHATIA; I had deposited Rs 5500/- in A/c No 06162000001330, HDFC Bank, vide cheque No 489655 also of HDFC Bank, on 08 Oct 2009. The amount included Rs 500/- as membership fee and Rs 5000/- as donation. I have not received any receipt or communication from you. Col Ajay Pal Gupta; Ref registration no 002181L my correct no and adressis IC-23181H Lt Col j k puri D-401 Shalimar Hill Park, MITHANAGAR ,KONDHWA, PUNE ,411048 PLEASE CARRYOUT THE NECESSARY AMENDMENT .THANK YOU PURI Lt Col J K PURI; Dear col Shiv Raj, 1. No body is doubting the good work being done by \" Report my signal\" but the problem lies in discrimination and used only for favourable persons. You seems to be new in the play ground of emails but we know the reality. I am pasting the contents of email received from Col SK Kandoori, probably a well wisher of ESM community.Its not a small issue. The funds are being misused by Gen satbir singh to the hilt. It is now a Public money being donated by ESM for their cause. col Bhardwaj; Dear col Shiv Raj, 1. No body is doubting the good work being done by \" Report my signal\" but the problem lies in discrimination and used only for favourable persons. You seems to be new in the play ground of emails but we know the reality. I am pasting the contents of email received from Col SK Kandoori, probably a well wisher of ESM community.Its not a small issue. The funds are being misused by Gen satbir singh to the hilt. It is now a Public money being donated by ESM for their cause. Major jakhar; I had applied for a life membership soon after making at deposit of Rs 5500 ( Rs 500 as subscription and Rs 5000 as donation to your HDFC A/C in the Dehradun branch of HDFC Bank on 22 Sep 09. I regret to find that even after more than a month, I have not been intimated my membership number other than an auto computer generated response that I received immediately. Please confirm my membership at the earliest. Lt Col (Retd) Vidut Dutt Saklani; Thank you! You often write very interesting articles. You improved my mood. Kouba; Membership No; UP-02630. IC19590,Punjab Regt. I m not seeing my name in list,kindly advice. wbr,Bhushan Maj Bhushan Kohli; do you really think surrendering medals will serve the purpose let us all not draw our pensions,till our legitimate demand is met,it is a shame to see from the web site that some one from the presidents secratariat is there to collect the medals, pse,get in to more effective methods to make these goongs to make understand, sorry sir my way and means may be harsh untill it is pinched nobody feels the pain pse amend ur ways of protest, sgt ganapathy ramesh; My name is there in the \"View STATS\" but no membership no. is yet allotted to me. My cheque has been debited from my a/c on the 12th Oct 09. I wonder what is holding allotment of the membership no.Can I get a feedback from the managing committee? MCPOII Vijoy Krishna Ambasta; My name has appeared at two places by clicking at Member’s List Army on the home page of IESM site with two different membership numbers i.e. 00542L and 00564L. Please make necessary correction and inform me about my correct Membership Number - Thanks – Lt Col K K Choudhary,SM (Retd) Lt Col K K Choudhary; Please insert logout in this website. It will be very easy to find out the names in the list of membership if it is in alphabetical order starting with first name as we are generally known by our first name. Office bearers are requested to keep in touch with the members by sending email or talking with them over phone or sending letters/circulars etc by mail. Promt communication will help IESM to grow further in a stronger way. Please avoid discrimination in ranks and files as we are all ve Subedar Mathews Chacko M; Sir, I have intrested to join your IESM, Please intimate the following :- (a) Payable at_____ (b) In favour of_____ Thanking you Hav Vincent.P; Sir, We are established a Star Ex-servicemen Welfare Association at Tiruvannamalai in Tamil Nadu(Regn No 181/2009). we are intrested to join your org, therefore you are requested to intimate membership fee of org. Ex-servicemen SEWA; Please intimate my Membership Number as it is not in the profile either Brig Ramendra Kumar; Íîâàÿ êîëëåêöèÿ ìîäíûõ äèçàéíåðñêèõ ðåøåíèé áûëà ïðåäñòàâëåíà íà íåäåëå ìîä â Ïàðèæå. Çíàìèíèòûþ êóòþðüå óñòðîèëè íàñòîÿùåå øîó ãëàìóðà è ìîäû. mirmodinfo; Are you a professional journalist? You write very well. cheap kamagra Peter; Online Pharmacy for Cialis, Levitra, Tamiflu, Viagra. Get Cheap Medication online. Buy Pills Central. Get Best Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, Tamiflu. canadian generic drugs. 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Subedar Mathews Chacko M; lipitor rebate lipitor tricor lipitor liver function tests lipitor atorvastatin calcium tablets warnings lowest price lipitor lipitor sack lipitor spelling thumb joints lipitor sigambisa; lipitor time of day to take lipitor side afects shannon bailey lipitor lynchburg lipitor 40mg bristol-myers squibb income lipitor lipitor side effects diabetics crestor or lipitor which is stronger lipitor sigambisa; sir my correct no. and addressis as given below IC No is 23181H address is D-401,SHALIMAR HILL PARK,MITHANAGAR,KONDHWA ,PUNE411048 hope the neccessary amendment will be carried out thanks a lot PURI Lt Col J K PURI; Thank you! You often write very interesting articles. You improved my mood. Floost; sir its a great job being done by iesm for veterens, but why is the delay in implementing the much awaited so called orop/apip, my dod is 30 apr 2006 still i am not in possesion of my corregendum ppo it is almost 40 months if it is delayed no problem but we should get it with intrest . some of my entry mates have already got their corr ppo for 50% what is the yard stick which is followed by cda for despatch of corr ppo pse intimate me regards..... ramesh ex sgt ganapathy ramesh; Sir, 1. I am quite satisfied the way IESM conducting its affairs and have attended its meeting at NOIDA. Thanks to Gp.Capt. V.K Gandhi and others for all the help rendered to me including accommodation. 2. I had paid Rs. 1000 as donation & 100 as membership fee. I will be happy if i get the receipt for the same. 3. I am a disability pensioner Ex-Group 1 LAC(with Service+disability element of 20%) and drawing Basic of Rs.4628+Disability of Rs.620 and DA. I Want to know whether the latest order LAC Sriramamurthy Suri (S. Suri); cialis tablet medications side effects of cialis cialis for sale uk cialis pri mortality rate cialis nitrates annuaires sp cialises testosterone overdose treatment specialists cialis france buy cheap cialis softtabs Generic Cialis and the sigambisa; Dear Sir, I have paid membership fee and am yet to find my name in the Air Force list. Kindly do the needful.Regards, Suri. Ex-LAC Sriramamurthy Suri (S. Suri); 1. Gen Kadyan has welcomed Brig Chhikara to IESM and felt grateful that he has donated Rs 4500/-. But he has forgotten to do so in my case. Leave aside welcoming, I have not even received acknowledgment for my donation and membership fee. Are the vetrons still run by Rank hierarchy ? 2. Does IESM have a constitution ? If so why not post it on the web site. If not, is there a plan to frame a constitution and who will comprise the committee for the same. 3. Are any elections scheduled/planned fo Col Ajay Pal Gupta; 3. Are any elections scheduled /planned for the executive committee or have the founding members declared themselves as its life time members. 4. There seems to be no response from IESM as my earlier communication went un-answered. Col Ajay Pal Gupta; I request all veterans to exercise restrain in commenting/doubting IESM Team\'s intensions.Its limitations be understood through COMMON SENCE. Wg Cdr H C VIDYARTHI; I deposited Rs 500 in IESM account vide HDFC Ch No 000000286564 on 23 Nov 09 and registered online the same day, but no intimation so far. Regards, Cdr r giani Cdr Rajinder Giani; I am sorry to say that no one is paying any attention on the feed back or comments or grievances or suggestions whatever. If there is no communication how IESM will grow further? There should be some one in the committee atleast to keep in touch with the members. Ex.Sub Mathews Chacko M; Sir,there seems no progress on implementation of new rate of pension for the people who retired in 2008.Kindly take the matter up with concerned aurhorities regards JWO HG SINGH; The home page of the Website may have to be taken care. Messages og querries of the month of Jun 2009 almost 6 months old are seen on the scrolling. There is no mean to acknowledge the new joiners who have sent their application and the Draft for the sid amount. The members list takes lot of time for updating. Since the total members as stated in the home page is only 4568 updating via data entry should hardly take couple of days but unfirtunately only the list of members enrolled till 06 Warrant Officer R.N.Thiruchelvam; who is the General Secretary or Secretary of the organisation. Pleass include the Secretari\'s particulars, the prime post of any organisation in the website\'s home page please WO R.N.Thiruchelvam; Misuse of canteen previlage by serving & retired ALL CATAGORY PERSONAL on climax which may hamper over a period ,CANTEEN CARDS also may randomly checked specially in DELHI LUCKNOW KANPUR AGRA BARAILLY MEERUT CIVILIANS ALSO ENJOYING OF FACILITY EXCESSIVE RUSH FORMED IN CANTEENS. XXXXX XXXXXX; Sir, what is the latest posn of the OROP. Is the govt completely denied or still working on it.will write more when I hear on these two questions ex hav k kurup; I am the President of Military Pensioners Association Kozhikode. There is a strong rumour here that the Karnataka Govt is assigning 10 acres of land to ESM. To register they have to go to Karnataka and contact a person whose phone number is also spreading rapidly. ESM has to reach there with 3 copies of photos and copy of Discharge Certificate. The registration fee is only Rs 3/, Is there any fact in this rumour. can anybody throw some light on it for the benefit of ESM H/Capt(Retd) K Velayudhan; My humble submissions (a)Shed Ego Inculcate mutual respect in Rank and File.(beware divide and rule amongst offrs/PBOR) (b) Avoid character assassination. Promote civil/military brotherhood, both are indispensible for National growth and well being (c) Put accross all views forcefully and still maintain thedignifiedapproach,befitting to service traditions. (d)Refrain and avoid E-Mail War.Trust each other. (e)Be very careful while addressing mixed crowd/audience specially the Press. LET US Lt Col HS Dham; My correct address is 436, Sector 2 , Panchkula-134109 and NOT Sector 21.My IESM Registration No is 001723L Brig HC Malhotra; I ,Anita Prasad wife of late Lt Col subodh Prasad had applied for membership on line by sending Rs 500 by NEFT on06/11/2009 from my account in Bank of India,but there has been no response from your side. Lt Col( late) Subodh Chandra Prasad; How do I search the veterans from Army Ordnance Corps and living in Pune? Hav Prafulla Patange; Ref Lt Col H S Dham\'s views of Dec 12. I fully support his views and expect all veterans to implement w i e . Wg Cdr H C VIDYARTHI; i want to register. where do i get the forms.this should be on your site. brig sudhirchopra; i want to be life member kindly let me amt to be pain and mode of pamnt done lcdr. sunil kumar talukdar; i want to be life member kindly let me amt to be pain and mode of pamnt done lcdr. sunil kumar talukdar; Why not aproach CAT(defence)for implementing OROP JWO RN NAIR; I m aed in Delhi. IESM may explre if Iam of ay help to it in anywy. Ex Sgt Unmesh Pahade; great to be in military services....... Hav Nanaiah B M; Subject: Huge Difference Amounting to Almost double the pension between Lieutenant Colonel and Major, a Difference of Rs 14,169/- incl DA. Major Pension incl DA Rs 18370/- and Lt Col Pension incl DA Rs 32539/- ,both retired before 2006. Money is power status. Majors have been belittled economically. Honorable Sir A meeting od retired Army officers Pre 2006 was held at Panchkula on 04 Jan 2010 on the above mentioned subject. A letter as appended below was Faxed to the Joint Secretary, Ex Major Subhsh Chand Sharma; Going through blog I read the rules. IF A MEMBER DIES HIS MEMBERSHIP SHOULD BE PASSED ON TO HIS WIDOW Maj Gen(Retd) Satish Chandra; I had submitted my application form for membership along with a cheque for Rs 1500 during March 09. However, I never got any Membership No or any confirmation/intimation about the same. How could such a slip take place in our organisation? Some others may have also experienced such a lapse. Could this be checked by the concerned member of the committee for avoiding such lapses in future. Thanks Col Anand Lalit Kumar; Dear Sir, During my visit to the Lodhi Rd Polyclinic this morning, the OC of this clinic told me that the management of ECHS is thinking to de-list all vitamins and isabgol etc. to cut down costs as majority of the overall cost goes into procuring these. If this materialises, we may have to procure vitamins etc from outside. This is for your information and action, as deemed necessary, to pre-empt any such move by the authorities as this will hit the senior veterans very hard. lt col s chandra; dear sir, you may like to consider netbanking and other electronic options for depositing joining fees and filling the form online. sgt pd roy 293219 sgt pd roy; Dear Sir, I would like to join the esteemed 0rganition so kindly let me know all the details. Thanks Corporal Rajinder Kumar Mehta; Of late there has been a lot of anger exhibited and correspondence exchanged among the IESM fraternity on the dubious, even negative role, played by many sections of the media as regards the armed forces and the veteran community. How about opening a Media Cell at IESM to look after the welfare and honour of the military personnel, guardians of national security, who currently feel neglected and consigned to the doghouse? This Cell may prove very useful in the long run. Thanks and warm reg wg cdr (retd) sc kapoor; May I request for the contact no. and email address of mem.no.004671L Lt.Cdr. Avtar Singh IN. Thanks. Sqn.Ldr. A.K. Agrawala; Recently a fake colonel AK BAJPAI SEND BEHIND THE BAR IN UP,WAS GM UP PURVA SANIK KALYAN NIGAM SERVED MORE THAN 10 YRS BUT RETD OFICER DARE TO IDENTITY HIS FAKENESS BUT USED TO TROUBLE EXSMEN UNDER THEM, MATTER OF ASHAMED AWARENESS LEVEL BLUNT. xxx xxx; MD ECHS had promised more than two months ago, that he would see to it that ECHS web site is updated to reflect- list of Empanneled Hospitals for Delhi- and that web site will duly reflect the date up to which said empannelement was valid in each case. MD ECHS had assured Lt Gen Sapru of the same as well as me on telephone. Alas,the same has not been done to date. ECHS web site continues to show as empanneled hospitals - facilities that are no longer on ECHS- current approved facilities.Will Wg Cdr ( Retd) Vijay Kumar Magoo; This is with regard to the reduced membership fees. the problem faced by us is lack of numbers. Let us learn from political parties.They have a primary membership scheme at a very low fee. the congress party\'s fee is only RS 3/- !. We should also adopt some such method and welcome large Nos of EXSM.We should also open a bank account in SBI and publicize widely. Pensioners will find it easy for remittances. Don\'t underestimate. Men have a large heart. Once the movement picks up I am sure there Col RP Gopalan; I have sent my application for membership by e-mail and have also deposted Rs. 500/- to ESM account during Jul 2009. Neither I have got ack for receipt of the cash, nor my name is in the list of members. I had written about it couple of times and nothing seems to have happened.???!!! With regards Col S. Srikantha; it was really great to know that there is some organisation who is really working for the ESM . Today when i heard from cdr RW Phatak i was really impressed and decide to join. Even subimitted my form . But i would like to know more about how we work in this org. do we really get some responsibility or just we become member pls let me know. I am even member of National Human Right. spo suresh k pal; 1. I am going to USA in March 2010 for personal reasons. Would be there for 4 to 6 months as per plan. In case I can be of any help, please feel free to contact me before or during my stay. I will be mostly in New Jersey and would be some times visiting Washington DC and Chicago. Contact by . Phone # I can intimate after I get one locally. 2. Help Needed. I have been drawing medicine as a routine from Delhi Cantt., ECHS pharmacy for my permanent set ailments over a ye Col S K Adya; ; ; ; my correct perticulers are as under IC-23181H LT COL JAGDEV KUMAR PURI D-401 SHALIMAR HILL PARK,MITHANAGAR,KONDHWA PUNE-411048 REGISTRATION NO-002181 PLEASE MAKE NECESSARY AMENDMENT PURI Lt Col JAGDEV KUMAR PURI; ; ; Member profile has a column for date of birth. When you wish to edit the profile, the edit mode does not show date of birth column. Ltcol P N Krishnan; ; ; ; Sir, With due respect I wanted to know the name of the state convener\'s name and contact No.of West Bengal, please. Thanking you. Sub Dilip Kumar Bhowmick; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Can i make on line payment or directly deposit the membership amount in HDFC branch at nagpur there is no seletion for these in the membership form agaisnst modeof payment kindly add Ex Sgt N.V.Bonde; ; ; ; VITH CPC- MUCH INJUSTICE TO PRE -2006 PBOR PENSIONERS- THE BENEFITS OF NEWLY INTRODUCED MILITARY SERIVICE PAY AND GRADE PAY HAVE NOT REACHED THE PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS THOUGH 50 PERCENT OF ABOVE ELEMENTS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CONSOLIDATING THEIR PENSION WHEREAS THE REVISED PAY STRUCTURE (PAY BAND) IS SO INDEGIONESLY FIXED THAT THESE BENEFITS DO NOT REACH PBORS, WHERE AS IN CASE OF OFFICERS THEY ARE BENIFITED BY THIS BAND PAY AND MS PAY FOR PRE 2006. Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; IAM REALLY PAINED TO POINT OUT THAT A COMPARISON OF SCALES AS PER V CPC AND THE REVISED PAY STRUCTURE AS PER VITH CPC WOULD REVEAL THE FACT THAT THE TOP OF OLD SCALE AND MINIMUM OF THE NEW PAY BAND FOR THE CORRESPONDING SCALE FOR PBORS IS VERY NEGLIGIBLE AND IN CASE OF SUB AND SUB MAJ IS EVEN LESS WHICH IS INJUSTICE WHEREAS THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH OFFICERS WHOSE INTEREST HAS BEEN PROPERLY PROJECTED IN THE VITH CPC AND RELECTED IN THE VICPC Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; IT IS HIGHLY FELT THAT SUB AND SUB MAJ SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN PAY BAND PB3 INSTEAD OF PB2, AS THEY ARE THE TOP MOST RANKS IN PBOR. IAM SURE THAT IESM MAY STUDY THESE CASES AND TAKE UP THE CASES OF PBOR TO BE A MOVEMENT OF MASSES. THE ABOVE ASPECTS WOULD HAVE BEEN PROJECTED TO THE ANOMILITIES COMMITTEE OF THE GOI FOR CONSIDERATION, WHICH IAM DON’T KNOW IF DONE OR NOT, THESE POINTS ARE TO BE SOLD BEFORE ONE RANK ONE PENSION.DENIAL OF 50 PERCENT OF MS PAY TO PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS WILL NOT Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; DENIAL OF 50 PERCENT OF MS PAY TO PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS WILL NOT MEET THE ENDS OF JUSTICE AS THEY HAVE EARNED PENSION FOR MILITARY SERVICE ONLY. THE SO CALLED PROTECTION VIDE ANNEXURE 3 OF THE MOD LETTER ON THE SUBJECT IS NOT GIVING ANY PROTECTION TO PBOR. Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; DENIAL OF 50 PERCENT OF MS PAY TO PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS WILL NOT MEET THE ENDS OF JUSTICE AS THEY HAVE EARNED PENSION FOR MILITARY SERVICE ONLY. THE SO CALLED PROTECTION VIDE ANNEXURE 3 OF THE MOD LETTER ON THE SUBJECT IS NOT GIVING ANY PROTECTION TO PBOR. Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; THE METHOD ADOPTED FOR REVISION OF PENSION DATED 11TH NOV 2008 IS THE SAME AS APPLIED TO THE CIVIKIAN BUT MSPAY IS APPLICABLE FOR ARMED FORCES ONLY SO THE ELEMENT OF MS PAY THAT IS 50 PERCENT OF MSPAY SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE PENSION CONSIDERED VIDE PARA 4.1 IN THE CASE OF PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS WEF 1ST SEP 2008. SIR I HAVE GIVEN THESE POINTS FOR PERSUAL OF IESM LEADERSHIP ONLY AND IF FOUND WORTHY,KINDLY TAKE UP THE CASE WITH DEPT OF EXSERVICEMEN WELFARE,AFTERALL WE HAVE A DEFENCE MINISTER WHO I Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; THE METHOD ADOPTED FOR REVISION OF PENSION DATED 11TH NOV 2008 IS THE SAME AS APPLIED TO THE CIVIKIAN BUT MSPAY IS APPLICABLE FOR ARMED FORCES ONLY SO THE ELEMENT OF MS PAY THAT IS 50 PERCENT OF MSPAY SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE PENSION CONSIDERED VIDE PARA 4.1 IN THE CASE OF PRE 2006 PBOR PENSIONERS WEF 1ST SEP 2008. SIR I HAVE GIVEN THESE POINTS FOR PERSUAL OF IESM LEADERSHIP ONLY AND IF FOUND WORTHY,KINDLY TAKE UP THE CASE WITH DEPT OF EXSERVICEMEN WELFARE,AFTERALL WE HAVE A DEFENCE MINISTER WHO I Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; SIR THESE POINTS MAY BE TAKEN UP BY THE IESM LEADERSHIP AFTERALL WE HAVE A DEFENSE MINISTER WHO IS SYMPATHATIC TO THE PROBLEMS OF EXSERVICEMEN AND HAS THE \"WILL TO RESOLVE THEM\" Sub Maj Retd A. Unnikrishnan Nair; Since am the Convener of IESM.,Mysore,and personal details of around 26 life members out of 32 members identified need editing.Suggest Editing facility as per L.Membership no.as identifying the peers through namewise is very confusing and cumbersome.Also suggest the service No. to be the search button rather than by name,since in many cases the sequence of names (alphabetically)mentioned on the application form is not followed and is very confusing to locate at our end. Sgt Sunil Rao.M.R; My iesm membership no is 002154L.My email id Bigadierdp@hotmail.com has been hacked/stolen,I am NOT using it.New email id is brigadierdp@gmail.com.Pl amend your records & confirm Brigadier Dharam Prakash; Sir , I send a group of twelve application for iesm life time membership with a draft of Rs.240/-to the name of vice chairman and same hasbeen send through email to the address according to your instruction on 15th and 14th of January 2010. But I did not get any remarks from your side. So please I wanted to know your kind replay. Thanking you. Sub Dilip Kumar Bhowmick; ; 1 SEND is a better word than SUBMIT. 2 steering committee sounds better than GOVERNING body etc Maj Gen(Retd) Satish Chandra; I have paid for life membership as per details below: Please note this transaction number for future reference: IR02563501 Debit Transaction Status : Scheduled for 22-Feb-2010 Debit Account Details Account No. Account Type Branch Amount Transaction Type 00000011209083082 OD Account IND FINANCE BRANCH, MUMBAI 100.00 NEFT Credit Account Details Account No. Bank Branch Transfer Type Amount 06162000001330 HDFC BANK GURGAON - PALAM VIHAR NEFT 100.00 Thankyou Cpl Tank Sunil T CORPORAL Sunil Tank; Sir I registerd my name for IESM life member on line on 15 jan 2010 and the enrollment fee cheque of Rs 200/ (chq no 923981 sbi indiranagar bangalore dated 15 jan 2010 to Indian exservicemen movement ) sent through normal post but so for the chq has not been honoured as per my bank statement, sir I request you to confirm the reciept of my Cheque. regards Hfl V Vallikanthan Hon Flt Lt V Vallikanthan; i want to be pmnt.member of the org. kinly advise,fees amnt.cheque to be drawn in favour of pls. pls reply lt.cdr (retd) s k talukdar; I HAVE BEEN SHOWN UNDER ARMY LIST-SEE NO 003209 L. PLEASE SHIFT ME TO THE NAVY LIST PLEASE THANK U BAPAT CDR BAPAT ULHAS PADMAKAR; è âñ¸ ýå: áëàãîäàðþ... à82÷ biscone; What is the rate of payment of DA from 1st Jan 09, 1st Jul09 and ist Jan 2010. Thanks Lt Col Ranjit Sinha; Age Limits relaxation to PBORs The present age limit relaxation is not beneficial to PBORs who complete full tenure in service.So please take up the matter to the concerned (a) A candidate must have attained the age of 21 years and must not have attained the age of 30 years on 1st August, 2010, i.e. he must have been born not earlier than 2nd August, 1980 and not later than 1st August, 1989. (b) The upper age limit prescribed above will be relaxable: (i) upto a maximum of five year CPL SURESH M B; Two important suggestions: 1. The Regt/IC No should be displayed under view stats 2. Henceforth, when online regn is done the membership number should be allotted immediately and displayed on the screen immediately Major P M Ravindran; Presently the age relaxation for civilian posts are only applicable for Group C & D posts.ie MILITARY SERVICE + 3 years.This is not applicable for applying GROUP A & B posts filled by competitive examinations.Please take up the matter at appropriate level.Ex CPL Suresh M B +971503233479 Abudhabi.UAE. CPL SURESH M B; ; ; ; I sent my registration details by E mail on 22 Feb2010 after depositing Rs 500 in youra/c through HDFC Bank zirakpur.please send me my registration No etc Brig Gurdip Singh Brar; VdeIU5 Excellent article, I will take note. Many thanks for the story! yJXCJQJdFKRcnSdYhc Cialis; ; ; REF AGENDA FOR 14 MAR MTG.OPTION OF ALIGNMENT WITH BABA RAMDEV,S SWABHIMAN ANDOLAN & LATER POLITICAL PARTY TO BE FLOATED BY HIM COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED. brig autarsingh; ; The comment at http://iesmorg.blogspot.com/2010/03/supreme-court-judjementmaj-dhanapalans.html?showComment=1268234680402#c2979898362686246870 needs to be considered seriously as the web site of the Hon\'ble Supreme Court of India still shows the status of the case as \"pending\" whereas the main post on the Blog states the judgement has been delivered. There is indeed a need for reconciliation. wg cdr ak sarda; I am delighted to hear that Brig. CS Kamboj is making a contribution of Rs.1 Lakh to the movement. His steadfast contribution to keep every member informed and his continued efforts to broaden our base has been a salutary effort and continues to be so. I convey my sincere thanks. Warm regards, Hirak Nag Cdr. Hirak K. Nag; widows,hony.commissioned officers &reservist are not happy with so called orop wef. 1.7.2009 award.These cat. are totaly neglated. Hony.com.officer of post i.i.2006 & viceroy com.officer will be paid as follows: LT -15465 CAPT-16145,but pre-2006 will be paid only LT-13500 CAPT-13850. Hony.LT Narsingh; Good effort by IESM. jwo arvind ; Sir, I paid Rs. 500/- for membership. What is my life membership number please Lt. Commander BAL RAM; My member ship no is 000128. Kindly refer my comment dated 14-3-2010.¶ 5.1&5.2 of govt. of India,MOD.Dept. of ex-servicemen welfare letter no.PC 10 (1)/2009-D(Pen/Pol)dt.8-3-2010. 1.Table no.133 in case of Viceroy commissioned officer granted rank of Hony. LT &Hony Capt.(1-6-1953). TABLE.133 Hony LT =15465 Hony.Capt=16145 2.Table no.71&76 -MCPO-1 ofGP.(A)&GP.(X)=13690 3.Table no.124-MWO of GP(1)&GP(X)=13590. 4.Table no.41- HONY.LT NARSINGH; To further continue my comment:-Table no.41-SM of GP(A)&GP(X)=13450 Note;-Pre 2006 MCPO1&MWO will be getting more than HONY.LT and SM will be getting only 50/-less than HONY.Lt(post2006& Viceroy comm. officer will be geeting 15465/-&16145/- respectivly. )Is it justified. HONY.LT NARSINGH; To speak on this question it is possible long. Levitra Cialis Viagra; One rank one pension is accepted and implemented by the Govt. as per PCDA pension Allahabad circular No. 370 and Ministry of Defence letter No.PC 10 (1)/2009-D (Pen/Pol) dt 08-03-2010. A Subedar of group A/X retired after completing of 28 years of service will get pension of Rs 13105 (Table No.36) as per above letter. Whereas a Subedar retired on 01 Oct 2008 after competing same service in same group is getting Rs 11535. It means the pensioners of post 2006 will get less pension then pre-2006 pe Sub (Hony Sub Maj) Ravinder Kumar; The fight for rights and sacrifice by our military veterans after retirement is really appreciable. Thanks and best wishes to all the members of IESM. EX-JWO SIBA PRASAD NANDA; I just read the MOM of the core group that met recently.I have 2 suggestions a) At least 5-6 members need to be from the Ex JCOs or below ranks from all services. b) Taking support from Pol. Parties like BKS will not help. Can understand the sentiments of the ESM who are from the farmers fraternity. For effective action a party that is vociferous and who has a hold in the parliament with at least 10 like minded MPs can only voice the opinion of the ESM on the floor.The parties who are more caste M.ChEARII( Ind. Navy Vijoy K Ambasta; The problem is not only from politicians and Banus but also from our own service headquarters who needs to implement the GOI letter in the sprit it speak. GOI letter dated 11 Nov 2008 made it very clear that pension more beneficial from Annexure I and III shall be allowed. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; Continuation of above comment: The holding of rank for 10 month very clearly removed in the above GOI letter dated 11 Nov 08, i wrote several letters but no reply i recieved from NHQ. I see no major difference with the politician, Babus and also our own headquarters. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; Continuation of above comment: The holding of rank for 10 month very clearly removed in the above GOI letter dated 11 Nov 08, i wrote several letters but no reply i recieved from NHQ. I see no major difference with the politician, Babus and also our own headquarters. Master-At-Arms IB Singh; Could you please give me the name & contact number of ECHS Help Cell With warm regards Cdr Rajinder Giani; The new membership form looks neat,but the bottom reciept portion could have included the letterhead as the previous form.As a convener of Mysore, photocopying of the same for distribution would have carried more value, since the reciept portion would be retained by the member. Sgt Sunil Rao.M.R.; Please include a link prominently to download application form for membership. Col RP Gopalan; This is in response to the “APPEAL” issued by the Secretary, AICC, Capt Praveen Davar. The pension is very personal and not a “Charity”. It has been earned. If one recalls, this was not even accessible to one’s spouse till the other half is alive and therefore the “Pension Account” in the bank was always a single account and not a joint account. However this has changed in the past few years and now one can have a joint account. However, I shall like to mention that as long as the pension is p Sub Maj AK Banerjee; Dear Sir, !.Resently I have noticed that I am not getting circulars and news signals. 2.My name wrongly spelled in list of IAF no.002298L.Pl correct. SGT SARASWAT BHAURAO; Does the IESM have its chapters in other states? If yes, where are its chapters in Jharkhand and West Bengal? Lt Col Ranjit Barkakoty; IESM should commence e-mail facility either its own or through groups managed by a team. Lt Col(retd) GV Sreedhar; Sir, I want to become life member. However I could not any form on the website. Kindly help. Lt Col CR Jayawant; Veterans should thank the PM for having finally given his nod for pension parity to PBOR. As an ex-PBOR, I also convey my gratitude to the veterans who tirelessly fought for it and won. But, in the process we should not forget our ex-Officers who stood by us in the agitations. Will Government consider their plea too? B’coz, the issue of OROP is somewhat unique to the Defence Services, whether it is PBOR or Officer rank. I would also like to mention here one of the major career anomalies faced Ex-Nk Balakrishna; Veterans should thank the PM for having finally given his nod for pension parity to PBOR. As an ex-PBOR, I also convey my gratitude to the veterans who tirelessly fought for it and won. But, in the process we should not forget our ex-Officers who stood by us in the agitations. Will Government consider their plea too? B’coz, the issue of OROP is somewhat unique to the Defence Services, whether it is PBOR or Officer rank. I would also like to mention here one of the major career anomalies faced Ex-Nk K.P.Balaji; With reference to PC10(1)/2009-D(Pen/Pol) Dated 08 Mar, 2010 Table no.124.Pre 2006 MWO of X Group 28 yrs & above Pension is fixed to 13590/- where as Hon Fg Offr granted to MWO of same Group is fixed for 13500/-.By getting Hon. Commission he is degraded. Also refer NON APPLICABILITY 5.1 of above quoted letter. Hon. Fg Offr AR Sapre; In continuation to my previous message to the GOI MoD Letter dated 08/03/2010.Refer Table no.133 which gives the revised pension in respect of Pre 01/06/1953 Honorary Viceroy Commissioned Lt. & Capt. Revised to 15465/- & 16145/- respectively. Request is made that this must be projected for Justice to PCDA (Pension), Allahabad Hon. Fg Offr AR Sapre; I really appreciate Ex Naik Balakrisha and Balaji for the generous comment, My pesonal opinion ,I think some officers may comment regarding MS pay which is 6000 for them and 2000 for jawan and JCO when both are doing military servie. Again appreciate Balaji and Balakrishna. God will certainly be with you. Ex PO Sherin Kumar; I am a soldier and I will remain as one through out my life. There is no dearth of dedicated leaders in IESM.May God bless them all major KP Sreedharan(Retd.); iesm should clearly indicate the new pension benifits tothe members,at least in the web-site jwo k.c.sekharan; Dear comrades of IESM, My humble question is whether we should treat the retirement from active service as the end of the road...and spend the rest of the life fighting the babus for more peanuts as pension? Is it wrong to think of a second career in the civil? If not, why shouldn\'t we join together for reservation in promotion in civil jobs as it is given to other reserved categories? Kindly place your esteemed comments Ex-Nk Balakrishna; Dear sir, Kindly forward the anomalies to the concerned Dept. reflect in GOI,MOD letter no.pc10(1)/2009-D(Pen/pol dt8-3-2010 regarding revision of pension (PBOR) of pre 2006. 1.Refer para 5.1 & 5.2, widows, HONY.comm. officer & Reservists are totally neglected. 2.Pensions of Hony. viceroy.comm. officer granted Hony. rank of Hony LT & CAPT. ( PRE 1-6-1953) is revised as follows:- Table Rank 1-1-06 1-7-09 Diff. 133 Hony. LT 13500/- 15465/- 1965/- 133 HNY.CAPT. 13850/- HONY.CAPT. MANGAL SINGH; Dear Sir, I had submitted my register form alongwith a cheque for Rs 100/- arounf one year back. But, Neither I have received my registration No nor any confirmation from your end. It is requested ti please mail me the reason so that i can take the action accordingly. Thanks & Regards Nk Roop Sedhra; Table 133 hony. capt. 13850/- 16145/- 2295/- 3.Pensions ofMCPO1 & MWO (pre2006) is more than Hony.LT. Table 71&124 of group A/1/X (PRE2006)is raised from 11526/- to 13590/- ,which is more than than HONY.LT . IS IT JUSTFIED? HONY.CAPT. MANGAL SINGH; I would also like to mention here one of the major career anomalies faced by ex-service men. People have a deep rooted notion that we are fit for nothing other than security jobs. The re-employment in Civil is open to us at the lowest rung of the ladder bcoz by the time we come out of the Service, we cross the age limit for middle level entry, even thru competitive exams. The situation resembles a snake and ladder game where we can’t reach a level on par with our age and experience. Once re-empl Nk (Ex) Balakrishna; Once re-employed, the masters find us most reliable and competent to entrust more and more work bcoz they can’t extract work from the youngsters. But when the question of promotion and career prospects arises, we are placed at the far end of the queue merely bcoz we joined later!. While in Service, we are always in ‘queue’ and when we come out, we find ourselves at the end of another queue!!. I am afraid no OROP can make up this loss. Jai Hind!!! Nk(Ex) Balakrishna; It is suggested that the exact anamolys of 4th Pay Commission be communicated and IESM can take up the issue with the Govt quoting the orders of the Supreme Court on Major Dhanappan\'s case. Thank you Lt Col Ranjit Sinha; I will feel obliged if the address of Major Dhanappan is communicated. Thank you Lt Col Ranjit Sinha; My Membership registered in Oct 2009 is not available in the list available. Please confirm my membership Warrant Officer R.N.Thiruchelvam; Dear Sir,I enclosed two drafts in Apr\'10 ,including one against Hon Capt Uthaman A for your Registration towards Permnt Membership Vide SBI Kayamkulam Draft machine No.493650 for Rs.200. My membership/Id has been activated but no trace of another application and the Draft.Kindly check your end and confirm pl.I have not received any official confirmation even after 3 months. MAJOR SUSEELAN K; I have sent life membership form along with a cheque for Rs 1550.00 by DTDC courier on 12 may 2010 .Kindly confirm receipt on my e-mail . COLONEL Amal krishna sarkar; Sir, Who bestows the Emeritus appendage for a Lt Gen? I had never read about it and nor can I find it elsewhere in the armed forces. Thanks Air Marshal (retd) S.Y. Savur; I have read the thought provoking excellent article \'why India is not a great nation\' published in IESM website written by Major General Mrinal Suman a highly decorated person. My salutation to him and IESM.I am very much impressed with this article and feel this should have widercirculation Atleast to all press, senior politicians, bureaucrats and well known social workers in the country. If funds and logistics permit for IESM they may even print in a small booklet not only this article and f Ex-LAC S. Suri, Founder & Chairman, N; I received the membership card. Thanks Wg Cdr SC batra; Hello! I am Wg Cdr Subhash Bhutani from NOIDA but am out of the country at present. I am not getting \'RMS\' mails regularly. \'RMS\' mails are the ONLY contact point for me to remain updated on day to day developments.Could you please look in to the matter and get me these mails sent at my registered e-mail ID which is subhashbhutani@yahoo.com. Thanks, Sincerely yours, Wg Cdr Bhutani. Wg Cdr Subhash Bhutani; It is hurting to learn that cards of Membership are issued by the IESM but I registered in Oct 2009 is still left in the dark about the membership. Please clear WOI R.N.Thiruchelvam; We should learn to respect the Govt of the day. By criticising the Party in the saddle all efforts of thousands of Veterans will be in vain.Those in high up in the IESM should show high maturity while expressing IESM problems. Alienating power centers is sure us take farther away from our aim. The core group should understand that each one of you are there to further aspiration of ESM not to utter or pen what you feel like. Be worldly wise do not harm the cause of the Movement, note this is a ca Lt Col GV Sreedhar; Now as there are only two groups (x&y) for PBOR wef 1-1-2006 and minimum pension for SEPOY of group Y is Rs.4603/- wef 1-7-2009 (refer table no.2)as per letter no.pc10(1)/2009-d(pen?pol)dt.8-3-2010.The floor ceiling of Rs.3500/- is to be increased to Rs4603/-and thi benefit is to be given to the Family pensioners,Reservists pensioners and Pensioners in receipt of disability element. HONY.LT NARSINGH; MY disability was 30%. Without medical examination, it was reduced to 20% vide CORR PPO NO. M/DIS/202/1998 dated 27 AUGUST 1998 (a photocopy of which was supplied to me only on23 Sep 2009, when I went personally to the office of the PCDA,ALLAHABAD, to resolve the matter).With that I have become ineligible to draw disability pension vide PARA3 OF PCDA ALLAHABAD CIRCULAR NO429 Dated4March 2010.Iwas not sent for RESURVEY MEDICAL BOARD and request being made is not being entertained by PCDA nor any Lt. Col.(RETD) JC JOSHI; Sir! Could I know the latest update on the movement of the SC on its orders in favour of the anomaly on the Rank Pay as announced in the 5th CPC. Wg Cdr Subhash Bhutani; Earlier, till a few weeks back, all important circulars ans letters issued by Govt used to be conveyed to members and others courtsey \"Report my Signal\" which is no more so. Even messages fron IESM chirman and others were relayed through that channel. As of now there appears to be no regular arrangement by which members are kept informed of all important communications. This can be done only by email service such as was that of \"Report my signal\" which shold now be done by IESM as an organis COL PK GARG; At edit profile there is no way one can add/edit the date of Birth. Ltcol P N Krishnan; 1.The Service numbers do have provision for prefix and suffix. 2. What are the rates of Subscription for Hony ranks. It is not mentioned anty where. Ltcol P N Krishnan; Please intimate IESM number of Ex WO SS Anand IAF,application form with Bank Maharastra CBD Belapur, DD 233228 of 15 jan 2009 Rs 200/- was sent from Navi Mumbai in jan/feb 09.Also when can receipt be expected? Brigadier Dharam Prakash; None has so far talked about equation of farmer ranks of Lt,Capt,Maj and Lt Col with present ranks of Capt,Maj , Lt Col and Col (incl Navy&AF );consequent to situation arising after abolition of rks of 2nd Lieut and redesignation of appointments of platoon,coy and unit cdr with revised ranks.All those armed forces officers who have struggled through those wars of 1948,1962,1965 and 1971;and on whose sacrifices the AF and the NATION are enjoying every thing of today. THOSE SUBSTANTIVE CAP Lt Col A B G Reddy; None has so far talked about equation of farmer ranks of Lt,Capt,Maj and Lt Col with present ranks of Capt,Maj , Lt Col and Col (incl Navy&AF );consequent to situation arising after abolition of rks of 2nd Lieut and redesignation of appointments of platoon,coy and unit cdr with revised ranks.All those armed forces officers who have struggled through those wars of 1948,1962,1965 and 1971(retd in rks of Lt Col and below);and on whose sacrifices the AF and the NATION are enjoying every thing Lt Col A B G Reddy; sir, The AFT chandugagh passed orders for grant of OROP. months passed. Since the govt has not applied for any stay, can it be constriued as that the govt agrees to it. Kindly advise us as to what is ur point on this thanks. havildar k kurup; Why does the site need compulsory payment? This restricts its reach. It should be opent oo the world. Then the pathetic letters to editors etc will get public notice. There will be no need to get them published in the paper. The articles can be promoted by Facebook and Twitter., Group Captain Kapil Bhargava; Thanks .I have received my life membership card along with receipt . However, address written on envelop is not correct address . It should be Barasat and not Barsat as written . Pin code is kolkata-700124 .rest ok . COLONEL Amal krishna sarkar; My Membership is 003593L.Are you issuing Membership Card to all members ? I have not received any.Kindly do needful as deemed fit. Also advise all on policy.---Wg Cdr H C Vidyarthi Wg Cdr H C VIDYARTHI; Your website leader reads \"The Indian Ex Servicemen Movement, hereafter referred to as IESM is an All India Federation of Ex Servicemen\'s organizations.\" May I know the ESM organisation in Tamil Nadu so that I may contribute to it. Air Marshal S Y Savur; Sir, I have taken the work of orop on IOB banks around Thanjavur (tamilnadu) and completed pension work for all pbors. On, this I could notice some discrepancy and pension could not be done proper for only disablity element pensioners as software provided by the bankers are not capable to handle it correctly. Disability given before 2004 are not updated as on 1986,1996.2004 and 2006. so the least low amount only is being paid as pensioners are not aware of this.What could be done. ex sgt P.JAGANNATHAN; Respected Sir,I have registered the application form being sent by courier 09-06-2010 DDNo-964215 union bank Naik S..Albert john louis; Could I have a copy of the approval for the IESM being an ALL INDIA FEDERATION OF MILITARY VETERANS\' ORGANISATION? Air Mshl S Y Savur; Dear Sir, Please refer to IESM OBJECTS AGAINST USAGE OF \'\'DEMEANING\'\' TERMINOLOGY PBOR ‘A person holding position of authority or trust, especially one with commission in armed forces; policeman or policewoman; president, treasurer, etc of society etc’ is how the word ‘Officer’ defined in the Oxford Dictionary. In the context of the Indian Army an ‘Officer’ is only a commissioned officer and not the junior commissioned or non commissioned officer. I find the term PBOR a convenient shor Lt Col (Retd) Avinash Karnik; My dear Avinash, Appears you served and retired in the Victorian era, that\'s why u refer to the Oxford dictionary to define non-commissioned or junior commissioned officers. It is the mis-deeds of the parents that one has to join the Service as a jawan, not the lack of brains. mind it. When a major General could relish this fact, what the hell are u born with the colonial genes? Naik Balakrishna; Dear sir,Our retired PBORS and JCOs have received their dues in respect of the new hike. What about the case of retired pre-2006 OFFrs and when can I expect the same be implemented ?Thank U MAJOR SUSEELAN K; Sir, My Membership is 0056691,I have not at recieved my membership card. HFL VV Kanthan HFL V Vallikanthan; I submitted my application form with the necessary amount in cheque through a letter to Gen Kadiyan some 2/3 years ago.Till date I have received no ack nor does my name appear in the list?Can I have the status please. Lt Gen R I S Kahlon; kQLQnS yvuufzuitoxe, [url=http://ymzzqzmfygfk.com/]ymzzqzmfygfk[/url], [link=http://ykwjdblgwatw.com/]ykwjdblgwatw[/link], http://hanjzjjapknl.com/ KOfXdWmJWHtesRh djrxbgflyuo; ;